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Rate of job loss, Bush v Obama (fact checked)

UPDATE: just got factchecked, report and raw data

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32 Responses to Rate of job loss, Bush v Obama (fact checked)

Scott says:

Unless I'm completely reading the graph wrong, the Y axis label (or values) are backwards. Wouldn't -700000 jobs lost mean 700000 jobs created?

    math 101 says:

    yes, you're "completely reading the graph wrong."

    however, the label is poorly written, so your confusion is understandable. when the bar drops below the zero point of the y-axis, it indicates jobs lost; when it pushes above, it indicates jobs created.

Bewickwren says:

So, the policies of the Bush administration set the stage to jumpstart the recovery Obama has now inherited.

    Brandy says:

    Bush's Admin is what got all the mess started, we won't mention the lives lost. That's another very sad story………. NO is the answer to your question. The longest red line indicates the biggest losses before the end of Bushes presidency.The blue next to it was the start of less losses… then more and less losses through the present time, of net gains.

Dennis says:

What is your point? They are mostly all crooks. Just ask any one of them to take a polygraph, and watch them studder and run!

Katie says:

Accountability, that's the point. To lamely attempt to attribute any upturn to Bush is the most laughable bunch of rhetoric yet. Bush made every attempt to tube this country. Keep up the rah-rah for his team…yeah, Palin, the palm reader; let's elect a moron!

Chris says:

Bewickwren – Yes, Bush and the Republicans had a part in getting us out of this mess. Mostly by bailing out the investment banks, AIG, etc. Bush and Republicans had a much, much larger part in getting us into this mess. Of course, like a good Fox News watcher and Limbaugh fanboy, you have completely forgotten about that part.

Karl says:

It's hard for more jobs to be lost when so many have already been lost. It's like a terminal velocity. The Obama administration is doing nothing to fix the situation in any case, and arguably making things worse by increasing our national debt and increasing taxes on businesses.

    DaleR says:

    Of course not Karl; taxes are at a 50 year low. For all the right wing babble regarding 35% tax rates for business, in reality businesses pay 25% or less depending on the talent and size of their legal/financial teams or accountants.

chris milliner says:

You people are missing one thing .In Novermber 2006 the Democrats took control of congress .The President does not make the laws congress does and as you can see from this chart what happend with them in control for the last 4 years .

Craig Newmark says:

Chris, no they didnt, they just had majority, unable to have control in face of a Presidential veto, and without influence in Treasury, the Fed, etc. Please check facts.
Craig

    Todd says:

    Isn't 2008 about the time Bush's policies over eight years completely tanked the ecomomy? It is a good graph, shows excactly what happens everytime you leave a republican in charge of the economy for eight years.

    mart says:

    No, you take note from Jan 2008-Jan 2009 Bush's last yr in office

    5.4%-8.5% 3.1% increase

    Pres. Obama is almost back down to his pre-inauguration numbers @ 8.7%

greg says:

Pat you miss the point. The *rate* of job change has to be positive for the unemployment rate to go down. But the rate of job loss is not going to go from staggering losses one month to zero losses the next month any more than the unemployment rate itself will suddenly drop three percentage points.
So yes, the chart you point to is a concern, but the unemployment rate will only go down when the chart at the top is firmly in positive territory.

Marilyn Baker says:

This isn't even close to being true. Please follow the Raw Data link and look at the Bureau of Labor Statistics Current CES Economic News Release – Employment Situation Summary and you will see that it cannot possibly be correct. Beware you coolaid drinkers, you are taking us all down with you.

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Clear thinker says:

1. During Bush, Corporate America shipped their manufacturing and jobs out of the country.
2. During Obama, jobs continued to be lost due to the Financial sector's greed and thus, the economy tanked.
3. Everyone wants to blame Obama. Where are the manufacturing jobs from Corporations? How are people who have jobs going to spend when prices keep going up?
4. In case you can't see the horizon over there…if we don't start making things again, the job market is going to remain stagnant, regardless of what Administration is in power.

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Agent86 says:

I miss Bush and jobs.
Lets compare the first 2 years of Bush to the first 2 years of Obama
Bush created jobs, and Obama losses jobs on an ongoing basis.
7.5 years of Bush most robust economic growth and 52 record breaking months of steady GDP growth.
There is NO recovery from this economic crisis caused by Liberal economic policies aka CRA and Afforable housing.
And Clinton signed the repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act which was the protection for investors that separated commercial banking from investment banking.Clinton signed the repeal that was put in place as a result of the first stock market crash in 1933, And Clinton signed and it was repealed.
Then the banks were allowed to create these securities and because the Steagal act was repealed the debt was sellable oversees creating not only a US economic crisis but a Global crisis.
I miss Bush and Jobs
Now we have debt spending of 8x all other Presidents combined !!! Not just more spending then Bush but 8x all other Presidents combined.
Obama is the worst President we ever had and This Congress and Administrations is at an all time low rating of 11% that is a 89% disapproval rating. This is for good reason.
You can't say I didn't warn you.
Now China is not buy Treasury bonds because their own economy is slowing slightly and they are nervous about the US being able to pay it back.
Greece economy failed.
History repeating is self once again.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Change it back, I remember Bush and Jobs, this is ridiculous, and these fools are talking jobs saved LOL
A job saved it not a job created no matter how crafty you talk.
When your sitting at home trying to figure out how to keep the lights on who cares about your twisting talking point.
Mr. President !!! Create Jobs !!! you arrogant idiot.
But you don't know how do you ?
Because your a professional begger aka community organizer. You are not qualified to create 1 single job are you.
You spent your whole life figuring out how to beg people for money for what you believed is a good cause.
You never actually had to produce any profits or produce and actual product or service that had any value.
You didn't have to manage a budget etc. or manage employees etc.
Bush had the highest education level of any other President and it was a Masters in Business Administration.
But you liberals didn't know that did you ?
Because you never even looked into to anything. You simply spread gossip.
I challenge you to listen to Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, Chris Plant, Mark Levin, Fox News Cable, O'reily etc.
I challenge you to listen to 60 days. You will be amazed at what you have been missing, because main stream won't even report anything important.
Today it was reported that the biggest scandle uncovered in Billions from oil for food programs and GE yes General Electric was involved.
Mainstream says nothing about it LOL typical.
Happy blogging, or heckling or whatever you do here.
Change it back I miss Bush and jobs.
Bush warned about the financial bubble on Cspan for 6 years or more, and Liberals just said they don't see any problem, or no problem with Freddie and Fanny
Watch a re-run of Cspan Bush/Mcain warned about this housing bubble bursting for years.
You were warned and liberals did nothing.
They opposed everything that could have prevented this financial crisis.
And again NOT caused by Bush but warned by Bush and caused by liberal policies.
You didn't know that did you.
Amazing what you find out when you actually look into things.
Search what caused the economic crisis ? it's all on google and all experts agree it was the subprime mortgage market which stemmed from repeal of glass steagal and community re-investment/affordable housing.
Banks were regulated in addtion to provide a % of these types of loans in order to get approval to expand new locations.
Government gaurantees etc. etc.
Government is the problem not the solution.
Change it back…..

    Brandy says:

    !!! you arrogant idiot.
    The President can not create Jobs, but then you don't know this, as well as you don't know that like him or not, you don't disrespect the office of president. By writing a BOOK, does not make your so called points, correct.

Agent86 says:

Forgot to mention much of the losses in the graph can be attributed to Obama
He was a player in the Acorn or sister group one of Obama's jobs was that he was part of filing suit against Citi bank for not providing enough loans such as Affordable housing loans and claims it was a racial issue.
So this topic and others helped mold bank decisions in engaging in even more high risk lending of sub prime mortgage loans.
Acorn was setting up camp and the CEO's houses of Banks intimidating these banks to give these types of loans.
And Acorn and other community organizers helped the push along with liberal groups to push the sub prime mortage issues and regulations requireing banks to provide these types of loans.
Banks were to maintain a CRA rating (community re-investment rating) which forced banks to provide these types of loans.
So don't be mad and the wealthy, don't be mad at wallstreet
Be mad at the poor and the liberal and Obama for causing these job losses you see in this graph.
Prove me wrong.
This is a known fact, and Obama was a player in all of it as well.
So the graph you are looking at is showing the results of the poor economic policies enacted by liberals. Not Bush.
Respond if you can. The truth will set you free.

Jim says:

LOL! Actually, it just looks like we ran out of jobs to lose. I'll believe we are on the "road to recovery" when the chart showing job CREATION is growing.

peter says:

Perhaps the post office job cuts, the post office closings, Rhode Island City is going bankrupted, HSBC is cutting 30,000 jobs…

No matter what your chart says…it is blue smoke. Perhaps the newest freshman to unemployment university will have the same appreciation towards your chart the way most of you have shared in this trail.

Anyway, what can you expect from a man that has never run as much as a paper route. He has no ability to keep big business home and can't sell local small business owners the incentives to hire people. He can't negotiate with the foriegn countries to lower our gas, and can't negotiate to make our dollar values rise. The Chinese are buying our country bit by bit. We need a hard nosed Republican minded with a proven business track record.

Chris says:

Hey dummy, I do watch and listen to those people you named and have for well over 5 years. The difference is I'm not stupid or easily manipulated like you. Fact Clinton netted over 22 MILLION jobs. Bush netted 122,000. Check it dummy but not on fix news. God help us if you breed.